Miscues Monday Pool rules singles league
Starts Thursday 9th april
If you would like to enter please be at mmiscues for 7:30pm to register. the fixture draw will be done then and any discussions about the rules.
for any further Infomation or if you want to enter but can't make the the 9th please contact steve Goodyear on 07976552908
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Agenda for Committee Meeting at the Shaw Inn on the 30th of March
1/. A Role-call will be taken of all the delegates and committee present. Any apologies will be given.
Present: Phillip Chapman(League Chairman), Roy Chapman(League Secretary), Kev Goodall (Treasurer), Lynne Robinson (Assistant Treasurer), Dave Lane, Pete White, Jack Cureton, Steve Mosely
Apologies; Steve Goodyear (Result Secretary)
2/. Once the meeting commenced the following list of duties were stated and were to be completed by the next meeting at the Boatman’s Rest.
Phil Chapman to e-mail Kev Goodall the list of inter league games.
Kev Goodall to print this list for next meeting.
Phil Chapman to e-mail draw for Individuals and Pairs.
Roy Chapman to e mail Minutes from meeting at the Mount and committee meeting at the Shaw.
Phil Chapman to e-mail Kev Goodall the rankings and Kev to put these on the Web.
3/. The draw for the 2009 Individual and Pairs was generated by Dave Lane and Kev Goodall with the aid of a computer program and delegates receive the subsequent draw in next meeting’s newsletter.
It was deemed that there wasn’t the need for a round of pairs and delegates will be told when this will be.
The venues will be decided by Phil Chapman and be available by the end of the week. Moreover, it was stated that the Victoria and Ardsley Oaks cannot host Individuals and Pairs, and the committee would like any other team unable to host Individuals and Pairs to let the committee know.
4/. It was brought to attention of the league that Commerical dropped out of the league. It was determined that the Commercial owed £80, so following rule , all players that had played for the Commercial would have to pay £8 to play for another team. Additionally, Miscues Reds were struggling to raise a team. Delegate Jack Cureton believes the team has disbanded and rang the League Chairman, Phil Chapman to pass on this information. He also rang Kev Goodall to ask how much money the team owed, and was told nothing. On further exchange, however, it was decreed that Sharon Lunn was not aware of the situation and the league decided that it was only right to give Miscues Reds a couple of weeks to be able to field a side. Phil Chapman will contact Sharon this week to see how things were developing. In the cup, Miscues Reds were playing Vic A, and Phil Chapman had received a telephone call stating that Vic A had not received confirmation that their game had been cancelled, but following evidence from Jack Cureton from his phone, it was decided that Jack had text Roy Billingham (Victoria Landlord) on the 19th of March at 22.55, so no further action will be taken.
5/. The worry trend of teams dropping out of the league was discussed. Whilst no definite solution was decided, Roy Chapman and Phil Chapman stated that during the latter months of the year they would contact, via a letter, numerous pubs and clubs in the Barnsley Area. If this didn’t solve the problem then a compromise could be to limit teams to three leagues and pubs would have to apply by letter to join the league.
6/. It has been noted that some teams are not filling scorecards out appropriately and would like to mention that sides that do not fill scorecards correctly will be fined £2 per scorecard as of rule . At the next meeting at the Boatman’s Rest on the 20th of April, the correct protocol regarding the procedure of filling in scorecards will be discussed.
For example:
Engineers v Pheasant had things written on card that was inappropriate
Kings Head wrote first names on card.
6/. The league discussed the Handbooks, and would like to apologise for the errors in them , but as was stated it was the first year that the league had done the handbooks themselves and would like delegates to appreciate that there would be teething problems. The cost was stated at £200, and discussed how we could make them better. Again sponsorship in the Handbook was mentioned and the league would continue to discuss how to improve this.
7/. The league offered a new role on the committee of Events Coordinator to Dave Lane, who accepted the role. His main objective would be to arrange a Race Night to pay for the improvements that the committee have decided that are needed for the Presentation Night. Dave will look in to it before next committee meeting at the George on the 1st of June.
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Minutes of meeting at the Mount on the 16th of March
1/. Collection of monies. All present teams paid £10. Individual and Pairs were also handed in and the majority were paid for.
2/. Collection of scorecards. All teams handed in scorecards for week 1 to week 4.
The following teams did not hand in a scorecard and have to pay a fine of £2 per scorecard missing:-
CENTRAL - £8
COMMERCIAL - £8
LUNDWOOD - £8
GREAT DANE - £4
WOMBWELL - £8
3/. A Role call was taken at 7.15pm and the following teams were deemed absent and therefore fined £2:-
COMMERCIAL
CENTRAL
LUNDWOOD
4/. The League took the opportunity to stress the importance of texting the results so that the Leagues can be updated on the Website. It is the intention of the League to have up to date leagues on the website on Thursday, and this is only possible if all teams comply.
5/. The minutes of the meeting at the Alexandra on the 16th of February were passed as a true record and signed by
6/. All delegates were given a new fixture sheet, Handbook, and Newsletter. Some mistakes were spotted in the Handbook and delegates were told to be vigilant when using them.
7/. the Cup Draw for the Rimmington Trophy was read out by League Chairman Phillip Chapman.
8/. Any other business:-
The League informed the delegates that the Pockets have dropped out of the League so now there will be another inter league game in Division 3 and 4.
Delegates were told that Individual & pairs could still be text to Phil’s number but it must be before Sunday the 29th of March. The draw was to be made at the next committee meeting at the Shaw Inn on the 30th of March. All delegates are welcome.
All delegates were informed that Team Registrations are to be handed in for next meeting at the Boatman’s Rest on the 20th of April, or fined every meeting after that their not in.
9/.Any matters arising;-
A delegate asked, whether in a hypothetical situation, that if a pool ball flies off the table and damages something e.g a tv screen, if the league was covered by insurance. The league stressed that the League was not covered by insurance and therefore individual pubs would have to claim off their own insurance.
Winner of the Football card was Hull City – M.D. This was not claimed on the night. It was later deemed that Mark Dickinson (Waggon & Horses) was the winner.
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The new tables are up
and the RIMMINGTON TROPHY draw
is Found in Competitions
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Minutes for Meeting at the Alexandra WMC on the 16th of February
1/. Collection of Monies. Most teams paid £30. This comprises of £10 League entry, £10 Cup entry and £10 for raffle prizes. All new teams paid £20 bond.
2/. A role-call was taken. The following teams were absent, and therefore fined £2 each
Cranberry
Keel Inn (Asda)
3/. The minutes of the a.g.m were read out by League Chairman, Phillip Chapman and passed as a true account. These were signed by Mark Wheelhouse (Mount) and Dave Lane (Ardsley Oaks).
4/. All teams were given the following:
Fixture List
Scorecards
A list of Inter League Games
Team Registrations
Individual and Pairs
List of meetings
5/. All new teams were given the following:
Game Rules 2009
General Rules 2009
6/. Any other business.
All delegates were told that the Athersley have not entered the league so therefore they will not be fulfilling their fixtures.
All delegates were informed that there were some fixture changes and these are printed at the bottom of Inter League games. Moreover, the fixtures sheets had some errors regarding the first division, and delegates were told what these were.
All clubs were reminded that results should be text to Result Secretary, Steve Goodyear no later than Tuesday. Failure to do so will lead in a 50p fine.
Teams were reminded that ind & pairs must be handed in at the next meeting at the Mount on the 16th of March.
The football card was won by P.Higgs (Cudworth S S). Winning team – Coventry.
6/. Any matters arising.
There were no other matters arising._________________________________________________________________________
Minutes of AGM Held at The Keel Inn (Asda) on the 9th of February
1/. A role call was taken and all clubs were present.
2/. The Chairman’s Remarks were read by the Chairman Phillip Chapman.
3/. The Secretaries Report was read out by the League Secretary Roy Chapman
4/. The Treasuries Report was read out by the League Chairman. A question arose regarding the monies spent on Handbooks/Scorecards and the league retorted that the money in question was for scorecards. Indeed, it was considerably less than previous year’s accounts. In addition, it was noted that some teams wanting to enter the league were in arrears. Following conversations this week, The Station, Arches and Commercial have all agreed to pay extra for the first few meetings until they are financially up to date.
5/. The 2008 Barnsley Monday Night Pool League was closed.
6/. Election of committee. All members of the Committee were retained.
7/. Proposed changes to Game Rules:
Existing Rule;
4/. C). The opening player plays at the triangle of object balls by striking the cue ball from the opposition on or within the ‘D’…..
Replace with;
The opening player plays at the triangle of object balls by striking the cue ball from the opposition on or within the line……REJECTED
Existing Rule;
4/. C). …………The opposing player re-starts the games with 2 visits.
Replace with;
The opposing player re-starts the game with 1 visit. Unless the cue ball leaves the table and then the player receives 2 visits. REJECTED
Existing Rule;
4/. D)If a red or yellow is potted from the break the player making the break shot must decide to which colour he/she wishes to play and nominate that colour.
If a red ball is potted from the break and the player nominates red the play remains on red.
If a red ball is potted from the break, the player nominates yellows but does not pot the nominated colour the on coming player has an open table. (Note: if a yellow ball is potted the same rule apply)
Replace with;
If a red or yellow is potted from the break, the player should remain on the designated balls throughout the rest of the frame. REJECTED
8/. Proposed changes to General Rules.
Existing Rule;
3/. D ) All teams must pay £10 at every meeting.
Replace with;
All teams must pay £20 at every meeting. ACCEPTED
Existing Rule;
4/. E) The Delegates Knock Out will be organised by the committee and played at a venue stated.
Add;
To be able to play in the Delegates Knockout, all delegates must have been present at 75% of the meetings. ACCEPTED
Existing Rule;
5/. E) Meetings will commence at 7pm with the collection of monies and score cards.
Add;
Meetings will be once a month and will commence at 7pm with the collection of monies and scorecards. ACCEPTED.
Existing Rule;
7/. H ) The committee will make the draw for each individuals and pair’s; this will take place at the meetings.
Replace with;
……this will take place at designated committee meetings. ACCEPTED.
9/. Any other business;
The quality of the presentation night was mentioned and the committee conceded that the presentation night was something that could be improved. Any ideas from delegates will be welcomed, and will look into the matter over the next few months.
The raffle on the presentation night, furthermore, was deemed as inapt and a possible alternative is a numbered ball system whereas a team’s ball is withdrawn from a bag, and not replaced. Therefore a team can only win one prize.
The individual and pairs was also cause for concern. Currently, the last 32 players are due to be play down to 4 on one night at the Miscues. Some delegates advocated that this was unfair on the other pubs in the league. However, the committee stated that the Miscues sponsored the league and it would be, ultimately, unfair to them. The league, moreover, is trying to organise a structure whereas all individuals and pairs will be available 4 weeks prior to the played date, and the current calendar would not allow this to be possible. Additionally, the committee would like to draw attention to the following general rules.
7/. N) All venues will be decided by the committee. (regarding ind and pairs).
8/. G) Any new rules or amendments to the general rules must be hand, in writing to the committee no later the presentation night.